tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post4377164928743485082..comments2011-06-23T17:08:52.698+01:00Olivier de Vrieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06377400356181373132noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-36803423249098527632008-10-29T05:17:00.000Z2008-10-29T05:17:00.000ZWell written article.Abbyhttp://udellinsurance.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-64298207565543830582008-08-21T07:46:00.000+01:002008-08-21T07:46:00.000+01:00Anna .. blow it out of your ass !!! Because then maybe you will get it out of your system. I still think that Daury= Lorenzo Van Rijn !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-71248372703498683322008-02-09T04:09:00.000Z2008-02-09T04:09:00.000ZMother Van der Sloot: Joran has no half brother <BR/><BR/>Family Van der Sloot with left, Anita van der Sloot. Joran has two younger brothers.<BR/><BR/>ORANJESTAD – The mother of Joran van der Sloot, Anita, wants to clear up the rumours that Joran has a half brother; he does not; this half brother does not exist. She told the Amigoe this yesterday. <BR/><BR/>Amigoe reported yesterday that the Dutch current affairs column and the local radio transmitter Cool FM assumed that a certain Lorenzo van R. was the person that helped murder-suspect Joran dispose of Natalee Holloway’s body with a boat. Daury Rodriguez’s name was mentioned earlier as the ‘boatman’, but Rodriguez denied this. Joran van der Sloot said in the talked-about footage of Peter R. de Vries that he was helped by ‘Daury’. <BR/><BR/>Also in the early stages of the investigation, family Van der Sloot has rebutted this rumour. “Justice has investigated it at that time and could ascertain that nothing tallies. But the media is digging into it again. How are Joran’s brothers going to understand this now? They asked me if what is in the Amigoe is true; that they have a half brother. This is on top of everything that has already happened.” <BR/><BR/>Also Lorenzo’s family had already told a newspaper in the past that this story about half brother is not true. The two families had contact with each other right after family Van der Sloot moved to Aruba in 1990. “They had an auto-repair shop and we have taken our car to them a few times. Lorenzo was five or six years old at that time and Joran two-and-a-half.” <BR/><BR/>‘Joran-shows’<BR/><BR/>The Netherlands as well as the United States are keeping a close track of all the latest developments in the Holloway-case. The Netherlands that was the first to broadcast Peter R. de Vries’ footage last Sunday, noted a viewing record of seven million people. ABC has broadcast the footage on Monday and at least 12 million Americans watched it, which is 11 percent of the TV-viewers at that moment. <BR/><BR/>De Vries has meanwhile left for the US to appear in several prominent talk shows. Aruban televiewers could watch the footage on ABC via cable for the first time on Monday. They have already seen and heard fragments via local radio- and TV-transmitters and on internet earlier. <BR/><BR/>Patrick van der Eem, the man that encouraged a confession from Joran van der Sloot on a hidden camera, seems to become ‘the big hero’ in the Netherlands and in the US, confirmed the office of Peter R. de Vries. The telephone hasn’t stopped ringing and several bouquets were delivered ‘out of appreciation’. <BR/><BR/>http://www.amigoe.com/english/<BR/> <BR/>http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_39496.php<BR/> <BR/>http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_39496.php<BR/> <BR/> <BR/><BR/>OOPS!!! What happened to the big scoop on Lorenzo van Rijn? I hope he and his mother also sue all the people who have slandered them in this callous and totally inappropriate manner. And sounds like that is exactly what Mama Sloot has in mind. Nothing like giving her more ammunition, however.<BR/><BR/>I contacted four people in Aruba just today and not one of them said they thought LvR involved in any way. But then of course, not being related, I guess just out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to help Joran van der Sloot because Joran is such a lovable guy?<BR/><BR/>Joran was facing a beach full of boats. Why would he have called for yet another one from as far away as possible on the island and one with a super loud motor besides? Would he be trying to attract attention in that way?<BR/><BR/>Well, not logically but I doubt he called anybody with any boat. He knew someone with one already there if he wanted a boat. Someone who was also a bar tender just getting off work about that time. Think about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-67327888743356434242008-02-08T01:15:00.000Z2008-02-08T01:15:00.000ZIt's Aruban radio station Cool FM in conjunction with a journalist for the dutch TV program netwerk. Here's the link to the episode of netwerk. http://www.netwerk.tv/archief/6437121/2166/Van_der_Sloot_mogelijk_naar_politie.html<BR/> and this is a text link,<BR/>http://weblog.detectivebureau.net/<BR/>This is a little bit more than malicious internet rumour. Lorenzo van Rijn hasn't been charged with anything, but he is being questioned, it also has not been proven that he is Joran's half brother.Olivier de Vrieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06377400356181373132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-6751328286709060202008-02-07T02:08:00.000Z2008-02-07T02:08:00.000Zhttp://i28.tinypic.com/29yi2d5.jpg<BR/><BR/>Nice pic of Lorenzo, guess who looks almost the same as him...Sloots?<BR/>Olivier, please keep in mind that there is also a fake page already from 2005 on google for this guy whith total different pictures...aruba does not want this!!<BR/>Cover-up!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-29033709083801143602008-02-07T01:15:00.000Z2008-02-07T01:15:00.000ZYup, that's the new suspect, as seen on the news yesterday. Here's the link Fokkinel did before that, detailing the possible people Daury could be, and at the end their update about this Lorenzo character.<BR/>http://www.fokkinel.com/?s=lorenzo+van+r.&x=0&y=0<BR/>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oliver thank you for all your translations..would you mind telling us who talked about Lorenzo on TV??? I do believe I have read on several sources that this is just a rumor and has never been verified....so it would be great to know who was talking about Lorenzo and where the information came from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-65677516868182667112008-02-07T01:11:00.000Z2008-02-07T01:11:00.000Zannas a dirtbag said... <BR/>Thanks for posting Anna..I think you have now said LVR isnt involved 10,000 times on every board on the internet..You should use you real name instead of Anonymous.Your facts are way off and your motives are highly suspicious.<BR/><BR/>You are really rude.....you blame this post on Anna with nor evidence...you want to blame Lorenzo and let irine go??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-14046870234177410012008-02-07T00:49:00.000Z2008-02-07T00:49:00.000ZI have my facts straight. Both TJ Ward and Art Wood, former members of law enforcement hired by Natalee's family, spent months in Aruba and thoroughly checked out Lorenzo van Rijn. Both say there is no connection whatsoever.<BR/><BR/>Internet blog rumor by those who wish to deflect the blame from their boy Joran onto someone else.<BR/><BR/>Well, good luck with that one. You will need it.YoureLyingAgainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-58908424547234087352008-02-06T22:37:00.000Z2008-02-06T22:37:00.000ZThanks for posting Anna..I think you have now said LVR isnt involved 10,000 times on every board on the internet..You should use you real name instead of Anonymous.Your facts are way off and your motives are highly suspicious.annas a dirtbagnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-72905828951166728512008-02-06T22:28:00.000Z2008-02-06T22:28:00.000ZThe blogger theory has too many holes. We know the series of events right up to them leaving, so there is no reason to involve constantly changing locations or adding and subtracting people to the group. Joran was home later that night, most likely without Natalee.<BR/><BR/>As for the last anonymous, no you check your facts. Lorenzo van Rijn is being fingered by Arubans left and right at the moment. He was called in for questioning before, in the weed growing case, and now again. The story in the papers and on the news yesterday was that he is being questioned. As for whether or not people high up in a drug dealing organisation are involved in growing the weed, well of course. It's illegal to grow weed in significant amounts under Dutch law, that's why they bankroll operations by 20 year old kids. They subsidise hundreds at the same time, if one of them gets caught, no big deal. But Lorenzo's dad PVDS, is rather good at getting his offspring out of trouble. Whether or not he's responsible for this, is up to the investigators.Olivier de Vrieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06377400356181373132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-22500452824608366882008-02-06T19:32:00.000Z2008-02-06T19:32:00.000ZDon't be foolish! Lorenzo van Rijn is no more Joran's half brother than the man in the moon is! This is purely blog rumor. He was arrested for growing pot only! Hardly in any drug cartel, I don't believe they fool with the nickel and dime cultivation process!<BR/><BR/>This is a total fabrication by the "Anyone But Joran" crowd and he has not been arrested, questioned or anything else since he was used to deflect from Joran very early in this investigation by an anonymous tip.<BR/><BR/>Van Rijn has nothing to do with this whatsoever as you would know if you bothered to check your facts instead of taking them from the fevered imagination of internet gossips. <BR/><BR/>Hint: People high up in drug cartels do not bother to plant and grow weed! Too much work for one thing. And there are a lot of liars on the internet in case you haven't yet noticed that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-11921927432756853802008-02-06T15:45:00.000Z2008-02-06T15:45:00.000ZLast night I had yet another dream about Nataleee. This time we went to Disneyland. She was wearing white shorts, white tank, and a white hat. We went on Indiani Jones, Space Moutain, and the Star Wars ride. Everything was going great. She was so sweet and we were talking about everything. We then went in the Haunted Mansion and she got a little scared. I gave her a hug and then she was okay. Then we went on Space Moutain and she hated it. She didn't even scream... her face just projected fear. After the ride, we sat down and she cried. I was so upset to see her so upset. I gave her a big hug and cryed with her. After that, we ate at one of the restraunts and she seemed to have a good time. Then we went back to the hotel and she took a bath. Then, when she woke up... she asked to go back on Space Moutain. She did and had no problems. She overcame her fears. It was sweet and somewhat symbolic.<BR/><BR/>Jimbo BanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-85527656830809963672008-02-06T13:47:00.000Z2008-02-06T13:47:00.000Zwe will see if Aruba is willing to toss Lorenzo down the disposal bin to take the rap for this? doubtful in that so many in the country's leadership are vested undercover with the cartel. Jug validated last night that from Oduber downward, was involved and congnizant of the cover-up from the get go. Which is greater retribution, loss of tourism or payback from the cartel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-15736776751155116812008-02-06T13:43:00.000Z2008-02-06T13:43:00.000ZI found this theory dated June27,2007 by someone named minnesota dad from a bloggers website from scaredmonkeys.com....scroll down its #6<BR/>it is very interesting to read his theory<BR/><BR/>http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/06/26/aruba-lorenzo-van-rijn-suspects-custody-extended-one-happy-drug-bust/<BR/><BR/><BR/>minnesota dad on June 26th, 2007 10:27 am <BR/>I have always maintained that this crime was simple. The cover-up was the complex problem - coached suspects (J2K) giving multiple stories is a tactic known to defense attorneys in order to cloud the case up as much as possible.<BR/><BR/>This is the case in a nutshell:<BR/>J2K pick up Natalee at CnC’s. They take her to #19 Montana, the Sloot compound (I come to this conclusion based on Joran’s statements - his first statement was the HI drop off - his second statement was the THREE of them took her back to his home…this statement was made at the same time of the confession that ’something bad happened’ - when the ’something bad happened’ was reversed by Joran’s handlers, the new story was that he dropped her off at the beach). Paulus was present at the compound. THEY NEVER, EVER bring Natalee into Joran’s apartment but rather carry on poolside.<BR/><BR/>From 1:00am to 3:00am the THREE are joined by Freddy, Guido, Koen and possibly other “pimps” for a gang rape at the Sloot compound. Joran has already confessed that he was raping her while she fell in and out of consciousness. Natalee fights, as evident by scratches described by witnesses on Guido and Joran. Approximately 3 am, something bad does happen - she is non-responsive…maybe from drugs…more likely from being smacked hard after scratching Guido and Joran. She is taken into the main Van Der Sloot compound and placed on a mattress. Paulus sends everyone home. Natalee is alive, but in very serious shape - from the drugs, being raped, and heavy battery.<BR/><BR/>Approximately 3:30am, after Joran has searched the Internet for a half hour, Joran and Paulus load the gravely injured Natalee into the car and head off to the ATM machine and Lorenzo’s. Lorenzo is asked to take care of her. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps she was dead during this time, but my guess is that she was passed to Lorenzo in a seriously messed up state. I base this on 1) Satish Kalpoe asking, “how’s the girl”, 2) Joran bragging about his sexual exploits with her at school the next day (psychopath or not, I believe he would be smart enough to not brag about a girl he murdered), 3) Dennis Jacobs confidently recommending that Dave Holloway sit back, she will turn up in a few days (once recovered from the assault and rape that occured).<BR/><BR/>The evidence of the pass on to Lorenzo is that Joran boarded the bus near Lorenzo’s property at 6:50am on the morning of Natalee’s disappearance.<BR/><BR/>In the meantime, the media and the Holloway/Twittys come to the island. Now, if Natalee was alive (which upon analyzing everything…it is very possible — but near death), they had a huge problem….releasing her at a crack house or other place would DEVASTATE tourism as FOXNews and everyone else would be reporting how she was kidnapped, drugged, and raped by the island’s elite Dutch children.<BR/><BR/>The decision was made to disappear Natalee Holloway (either living or if she died somewhere between 3:00am and 6:30am during the transfer to Lorenzo). This is where Natalee’s life had to be taken and her “disappeared” in order to not harm tourism on the island. This explains PVDS’ “No body - no crime” statement. This also explains Deepaks police car comment, “If they find the girl they will find the chit” and Joran’s response, “I will laugh if they find the girl”.<BR/><BR/>What better place to take ‘the girl’ then to an ‘untouchable’ property on the island? They needed to get her out of the VDS compound ASAP, as they knew that there would be a search in the immediate hours after it was discovered that Natalee did not make her flight. <BR/><BR/>It is very clear that Paulus and his compound were center to this case based on 1) Paulus clearly coaching the witnesses and interfering with the investigation (per Karin Janssen), 2) the blood soaked mattress and the furniture truck arriving to deliver furniture, 3) the intentional interference in the search of #19 Montana through Judge Bob Wit and Ben Vocking restricting the search to Joran’s apartment only, 4) Paulus filing with the Aruban courts to not allow the FBI to have any jurisdiction or to provide any independant searches (why have people involved that would actually solve the crime?).<BR/><BR/>What we do know, is that there are witness statements that PVDS was out with JVDS and Natalee at 4:00am. We also early on were told that there was an ATM transaction at this time. We also know that Joran picked up his bus to school near Lorenzo’s home. A dead or gravely injured Natalee was taken to Lorenzo’s. Based on the assault of Guido and Joran, she was badly hurt (remember, she fell and hit her head several times when dropped off at the Holiday Inn!).<BR/><BR/>So there you have it. Very simple and not muddied and complex as a defense attorney, Paulus, would like you to believe. Here are my opinions on the charges:<BR/><BR/>Deepak Kalpoe - Accessory to kidnap, rape, and murder<BR/>Satish Kalpoe - Accessory to Kidnap, rape, and murder<BR/>Joran Van Der Sloot - Kidnap, Rape, heavy battery, and accessory to murder. Providing False witness statements in a criminal investigation.<BR/>Guido Wever - Rape, heavy battery, and accessory to murder<BR/>Paulus Van Der Sloot - Accessory to kidnap and murder. In addition, Paulus provided false witness statements (the 6/16/2007 vanished witness statement) and interfered with a criminal investigation. Racketeering. Transporting and accessory in the disposal of a body.<BR/>Lorenzo - Accessory to murder and transporting/disposal of a body.<BR/><BR/>No one was ever at a beach where tennis shoes stolen from the lost and found at the racquet club were conveniently placed by Guido and Joran. No one was ever at the lighthouse…where the exact belt, that Joran was strangling a friend on his MySpace account, was found. These were plants to muddy the case. <BR/><BR/>Yes, it was all in plain view. Now, please KLPD. End this case….I am very, very tired of doing your work for you.<BR/><BR/>mdShow4http://openid.aol.com/Show4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-22610124776509978932008-02-06T13:04:00.000Z2008-02-06T13:04:00.000ZYup, that's the new suspect, as seen on the news yesterday. Here's the link Fokkinel did before that, detailing the possible people Daury could be, and at the end their update about this Lorenzo character.<BR/>http://www.fokkinel.com/?s=lorenzo+van+r.&x=0&y=0Olivier de Vrieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06377400356181373132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-12357029394695074132008-02-06T12:56:00.000Z2008-02-06T12:56:00.000ZHere is a link I found...not sure how reliable it really is....What do you think Olivier?<BR/><BR/>http://www.fokkinel.com/2008/02/new-suspect-in-natalee-holloway-case/Show4http://openid.aol.com/Show4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-9032453368980288972008-02-06T09:44:00.000Z2008-02-06T09:44:00.000ZthanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-65067424440665340582008-02-06T07:16:00.000Z2008-02-06T07:16:00.000ZThank you so much for the updated and translations!! We really appreciate it!!Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-76239641508110890962008-02-06T05:23:00.000Z2008-02-06T05:23:00.000ZHi Olivier, I thought I'd make a distinction for you. Andrew Hodges is a medical doctor of psychiatry not a psychologist.<BR/><BR/>His book is very interesting and worth the read. I believe he is correct; Deepak and Satish are in this thing and were involved in a gang rape of Natalee and murder with Paulus intimately involved at least in the burial at sea and subsequent cover up, if not the rape itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4033321063629203288.post-48324794434663053602008-02-06T02:17:00.000Z2008-02-06T02:17:00.000ZWOW!!!<BR/><BR/>Lorenzo is currently being held for questioning? Is there a news link for this information? <BR/><BR/>Thanks!!!Curiousnoreply@blogger.com